It says it all really. God knows how many Chairmen, DoF, Managers, Head Coaches, Players and 100s of millions we've spent, we're as far away from the big 4 teams as we were 16 years ago. Anyone who says we're getting closer is simply fooling themselves and spining the supporters. And I include Ramos in that, trying to convince us that we're evenly matched vs the likes of The Filth and Chavski. Absolute borrox. 2 defeats and 1 draw against mostly their second string sides.