Ins and outs next season

Fellow SiHKers.

With Modric signed, perhaps we're about to see a large exodus of players before much more influx. I reckon that midfield will be the main area where we see changes, along with keepers.

So, that got me thinking about whether we'll see much change in other parts of the squad and who the borderline cases are.

I'll start with the much-maligned full-back Pascal Shimbomba. Common theory is that he's on his way, but I say keep him. Let's not forget that he was the league's Right-Back-of-the-year not so long ago. And so what if he likes a bit of a strop - so do Berba and Keane. And so what if he's a blinging party-boy off the field - so are Little Lennon, Hudd, JJ, Prince and many more. Keep Chimbo!

I think we should ship Tanio Tanio asap. Also we should sensationally axe Chimbo. Not sure how you can defend him to be honest as he has been pretty woeful all season and cannot track back to save his life and such a stroppy bastard it is detrimental to the team.

I'd get shot of those two straight away

I would sell all of the following: Robinson, Cerny, Stalteri, Lee, Dawson, Rocha, Gardener and Tainio.

Controversially, I would keep Kaboul, KPB, Zokora and Bent.

I'd give the Ghetto Prince another half a season agree

Is the prince injured? why has he not seen any playing time in either the first team or reserves? unless he is injured, surely he must already be in the bargain basement section of the spurs shop.

The rumour is that we would not play Prince nor Kaboul again because that would trigger payment clauses in their transfer.

James wrote:

The rumour is that we would not play Prince nor Kaboul again because that would trigger payment clauses in their transfer.

...interesting.

Daniel wrote:

I think we should ship Tanio Tanio asap. Also we should sensationally axe Chimbo. Not sure how you can defend him to be honest as he has been pretty woeful all season and cannot track back to save his life and such a stroppy bastard it is detrimental to the team.

I'd get shot of those two straight away

Nonsense! Tainio is the most versatile player we have, happy at full back or anywhere across midfield!

Chimbo is skillful going forward and has pace and power. A bit more discipline (ie not treading on Lennon's heels) and he'd be sorted.

of course they are. Sorry, I must have been watching some other team.

Chimbo and Tanionioinio out.

Bollox

well argued as ever. Maybe if you backed your arguments up instead of swearing you could see that Tanininino and Chimbo are nothing more than squad players who are not really fit to grace the Derbys or the Sunderlands of this world. Tanininio has had about 6 'decent' games in his entire time at Spurs and Chimbo is always missing in action - great, well ok, good at going forward but poor at defending seeing as he is a defender.

Sorry, but I will have my say and my opinion is valid even if you try and shout me down. Change your attitude mate...

Yeah, but you always think your way is the only way, dammit!

I only swore cos I had made my point already and couldn't be arsed to repeat it. Now, I must elaborate!

I agree that TT is a squad player. That's why we need him - he can cover for so many others and do a solid job.

Chimbo may be blinging but so what? Are we not all about style anyway?

Number 10 wrote:

Yeah, but you always think your way is the only way, dammit!

Here we go again when did I say that? You can have your view but I cannot have mine right? OK

Number 10 wrote:

I only swore cos I had made my point already and couldn't be arsed to repeat it.

You made your point and I disagree, that is what an internet message board is about

Number 10 wrote:

I agree that TT is a squad player. That's why we need him - he can cover for so many others and do a solid job.

He is a liability and made of glass. Can he cover as an attacker? NO. Defender? NO. Midfield? NO. Hang on, what does he do? Trash. Dump him.

Number 10 wrote:

Chimbo may be blinging but so what? Are we not all about style anyway?

Yes we are but if that style involves looking like a crack addict then we are at the forefront of fashion. Chimbo is a mercenary shitcunt.

OK, if you say so. Not sure as to why you keep on at this but FACTS are that CHIMBO and TAANAINNINOINOINO are so bad it hurts yet you want to keep them. Great tactical awarness skills. Stick to computer games

I'm with Daniel on this, I'd sell them both.

Tainio had a good game in the League Cup semi 2nd leg against the Goons and has had some decent performances in Europe centrally. However, we aren't going to get any better with him in the starting XI and I think Zokora can take his versatility man tag. Plus the fact that he only has to look at a football to get injured. We signed im on a free, so if we get a 2m offer for him I say sell.

It seems that Shimbomba is a rotter. His reaction to being substituted in the League Cup final shd seal his fate. He has form in requesting a transfer at Wigan on the pitch and demanding a new contract at Spurs when Chelski were interested. He is a lazy player and we already have a better right back in Hutton. Plus he is 29. If we can get 4m for him from someone like Aston Villa, I say flog him.

I'd also sell him both, albeit on reasons a bit different to Daniel's.

Tainio is a squad player who is not a player we need if we want to push for Top 4. He is a very likable fella, a true Spurs fan, and I am delighted for him that he played a big part in our CCF win. But his time is up.

Chimbo - he is actually a good player as Number 10 said. He plays best against a strong team (eg Chelsea at home last season) but he also costs us a lot of goals for his poor marking. I only sell him because of his attitude. I don't want to keep players who doesn't want to play for OUR club.

Get rid of the following: Robbo, Cerny, Chimbo, Gardner, Stalteri, BAE, Dawson, Lee, TT, Zokora, Bent, Tarbuck, KPB. Berba will probably leave too.

Bring in 8 replacements: x2 goalies, right back, centre back, left winger, x2 centre forwards, defensive midfielder.

ezza wrote:

Get rid of the following: Robbo, Cerny, Chimbo, Gardner, Stalteri, BAE, Dawson, Lee, TT, Zokora, Bent, Tarbuck, KPB. Berba will probably leave too.

Er...... so that just leaves Keano??

And Number 1 is Robbie Keane, and Number 2, is Robbie Keane........

Yep!

But didn't he throw a strop at being substituted too... KEANO OUT.... we'll have to come up with a new player for that song.

Looking at our squad as of today AND considering they're healthy enough to figure in games most of time, who do you think is Top 4 material?
My picks:
Top 4 starters: Keane, Berbatov, Woodgate, Hutton, King
Close to: Modric, Bale
Top 4 squad: Jenas, Chimbonda, Huddlestone, Lennon, Malbranque, Cerny, Zokora
Worth a wait: Kaboul, O'Hara, Taarabt, Boateng, Gunther
No way: Everyone else

For me, we need at least 4 Top 4 material players as starters to even have a shout. Our squad players will be better than at present but this is taking into account King will stay healthy and Modric and Bale perform to expectations.

I should have added Kaboul to the players we ship out

agree we need to shi(f)t out a lot of the rot but surely getting rid of too many will destabilise the framework and mean having another 'transitional' season while everyone gets used to each other.

i say take it step at a time and lets not get carried away showing everyone the door too soon

Defenite outers are : Robbo, Cerny, Gardner, Stalteri, Rocha, Ghaly(??), Gilberto, Bent (if Berbs stays)

Tottenham defender Younes Kaboul has launched an astonishing attack on manager Juande Ramos, claiming their Carling Cup triumph was “nothing to do with him” and that they would still have won it under former boss Martin Jol.

Kaboul also claimed that Ramos does not communicate with the players and that the Spanish coach has not given him a chance since he replaced Jol last October.

Ramos has been widely praised for his work with Spurs after their disappointing start to the season, but Kaboul has not featured in the first-team since March 1 and is clearly unhappy with his life at White Hart Lane under Ramos.

“Tactically it has changed a bit, perhaps,” said Kaboul. “But then, in terms of personality, Martin was a character.

“For us, he was a father-figure, whereas Ramos, it is just tactics and nothing else.

“In training, we do a lot of 11 v 0 and stuff on the blackboard to work on our progress with the ball.

“Ramos has brought us that, but nothing else. What has saved us this season is the Carling Cup. People say we won the Carling Cup because Ramos arrived at the club, but that has nothing to do with him. We would have won it with Martin Jol.”

The 22-year-old Frenchman last played in the 4-1 defeat at the hands of struggling Birmingham at St Andrew’s.

But Kaboul, signed from Auxerre last summer, has not featured regularly since Ramos replaced the ousted Jol.

“I played the entire first half of the season but since the change of manager, I have not played,” said Kaboul.

“I have had no explanation from him. He doesn’t talk, with anyone. Communication doesn’t exist with him. He isn’t playing me? That is his choice - I respect it, I am a professional.

“I am young and it is the first time this has happened to me in my career. But I am not surprised because when you are a footballer, you must be prepared for that, for good and bad times.”

“Ramos has not really given me a chance. When a player doesn’t have the confidence of his coach, he can’t do much on the pitch. But when a coach has confidence in you, you take the handbrake off and you race away.”




...Bye-bye Younes!