Why Ramos?

the Spanish league is a whole new kettle of fish compared to the Prem. OK waffa cups but this is not TOP 4 material. Hairy, who is the Spanish muppet anyway?

bit of info on here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_la_Cruz_Ramos_Cano

He's had a great last couple of seasons with Sevilla but he's 51 years old and before that his career was very average.

He's had 10 clubs in 15 years, just the sort of stability we need. And Sevilla is the only one that he's had results with apparently, and he inherited a half-decent team even then.

Ramos is Gross backwards in Spanish.


Going to be Harry Redknapp anyway.

I know a bit (not much) about his style from watching Sevilla over the last couple of seasons and reading some articles about Ramos in World Soccer magazine.

As we saw in the UEFA Cup, he has a very attacking outllook home and away, playing with two wingers, two strikers and just one (normally Poulsen) deep lying midfielder. Sevilla play with high energy, are a very fit side and score plenty of goals. As we know, he turned Kanoute into a world beater and in fact the big man got a hat-trick against Real Madrid in the Spanish equivalent of the Charity Shield over the weekend, which Sevilla won 5-3 on aggregate. Ramos rotated his squad a lot last season between UEFA Cup and the league and only really played his best players against in the quarter final and beyond.

Pls feel free to correct the above if anyone knows any more about his style, it is just my impression.

PLEASE NOT REDKNAPP!

couple of otehr articles on ramos

http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/club=52714/coach.html

http://www.worldsoccer.com/interviews/sevilla_coach_juande_ramos_interview_107105.html

Good article on Juande Ramos for ref...

http://www.footballingworld.com/2007/08/21/ramos-the-perfect-coach-to-match-tottenhams-determined-ambition/


Martin Jol’s job is under increasing threat - and the leading man to replace him is Juande Ramos. Matthew Day looks at the achievements of the Sevilla coach who started to learn English last year and guided the Andalucian side to another Uefa Cup triumph.

Some bookmakers have ceased taking bets on the first sacking of the new Premier League season as Martin Jol’s position becomes evermore precarious. Tame performances against Sunderland and Everton left Tottenham with no points after their first two matches and predictions that they would finish amongst the top four looked extremely premature. While sacking Jol after only three matches would be ludicrous and unfair, a substantial section of the Tottenham supporters believe reaching the Champions League under the current manager is an unattainable dream, and of course the lure of a continental and two-time Uefa Cup winning coach in Juande Ramos is strong.

Ramos started learning English last year – possibly in preparation for a promotion – but it was his Spanish that inspired Sevilla to the double last season. The club have won five trophies in 15 months – two Uefa Cups, one Copa del Rey, one European Super Cup and most recently the Spanish Super Cup – playing an exciting brand of attacking football. They were also in the running for the league title up until and including the final weekend, though ultimately ran out of steam, and first-team players, fighting on three fronts.

The reputation of Ramos has grown vastly since his first European success in 2006, when an unheralded Sevilla team marched to the final and subsequently dismissed English side Middlesbrough in humiliating fashion. Domestically, Ramos has engineered victories over Barcelona and Real Madrid, the strongest sides in Spain, including a 3-0 hammering of the former in the European Super Cup a year ago and more recently a 5-3 win over Real in the domestic Super Cup, ensuring a 6-3 aggregate victory.


Sevilla do not have the sheer number of household names Barcelona, Real or Valencia benefit from, so Ramos must take credit for getting the most out of a talented squad and implementing a winning mentality. His management has seen the rise of €35m-rated right-back Daniel Alves, the resurgence of Fredi Kanouté (ironically a flop at Tottenham and sold by Jol), and the emergence of exciting, gifted players like Jesús Navas, Luís Fabiano and Renato. Ramos told World Soccer recently, “The player who is not a star may be hungrier but the star guarantees you a certain number of victories because he can win games on his own. Sevilla don’t have any stars but we win the games on the basis of humility and a level of physical exertion that is very, very high.” The mix of solid performers and players with flair has proved a prefect combination, especially in the Uefa Cup where Sevilla became only the second team to defend the trophy, after Real Madrid over twenty years ago.

There’s a real conviction about everything we do. The key is convincing the players to be very ambitious
- Juande Ramos

Ramos’ team are renowned for their togetherness and spirit. The entire Sevilla contingent, players and staff, ran onto the pitch to celebrate goalkeeper Andrés Palop’s stoppage time goal which kept the club in the Uefa Cup at Shakhtar Donetsk earlier this year and in February, the players refused to continue after Ramos was hit on the head by a bottle and knocked unconscious in a heated derby with Real Betis. Largely quite and unassuming but always thoughtful, Ramos could be the solution to Tottenham’s trophy drought while also bringing Champions League football to White Hart Lane.

The supposed shortlist to replace Jol at Tottenham also includes Harry Redknapp and Marcello Lippi, but only Ramos comes with recent club glory on his CV. The Ciudad Real-born 52-year-old: “The team [Sevilla] has total confidence in our system; there’s a real conviction about everything we do. The key is convincing the players to be very ambitious. Sometimes you can lose games, but you have to keep going with it, keep striving to achieve more.”

A meeting has already taken place between Tottenham and Sevilla but tough negotiator José María del Nido, president of the club, is thought to be ready to rebuff any approach from the English club. Yet Ramos’ contract expires in a year so the North London club could wait until next summer and persuade the coach not to sign a new contract nor talk to other clubs, or alternatively a settlement could be reached because of the short time remaining on his deal. The immediate and public reaction of Tottenham fans was to back Jol and victory against Manchester United this weekend would make sacking him problematical to say the least, meaning waiting until the end of the season would be the easiest and wisest solution.

Ramos’ record in nurturing talent and winning trophies through industrious performances from hungry players and an ambitious mentality is hugely impressive and a change from Jol’s management style. The Tottenham hierarchy have reportedly lost confidence in the incumbent manager and the supporters desperately crave a new era of success. A summer of spending demonstrates the club’s determination to win silverware, but is Jol capable of delivering? If not, the chairman can’t go far wrong with the appointment of Juande Ramos, a diligent and intelligent coach who has aspirations of glory away from his current home in Sevilla. And London could be his next destination as English lessons continue in southern Spain, preparing the maestro for his next big challenge.

Janek wrote:

couple of otehr articles on ramos

http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/club=52714/coach.html

http://www.worldsoccer.com/interviews/sevilla_coach_juande_ramos_interview_107105.html

2 very well researched articles Janek.

Er......why Ramos indeed?!

Why not Capello or Lippi? Do they not have infinitely better track records at delivering consistent success, trophies and CL football to their respective clubs in Italy, Spain and Germany (can't remember if Lippi managed there) and the national team?

Granted Ramos has a good recent pedigre, but there's no guarentee of success if/when he comes to Spurs. Aren't our chances better with the likes of Lippi, Capello, or any other manager with a proven, consistent record at club level?

Strip away all the gumpf that's been written in the press and I cannot quite make out what significant, extra qualities Ramos will bring over and above BMJ. I can certainly see the wood from the trees however if you stack up BMJ vs Lippi and Capello.

Just my view.

couple more articles on Ramos from the papers today:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1YourView&xml=/sport/2007/08/22/sfnram122.xml

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/european/article2883794.ece

Why Ramos - because Portugese and Spanish managers are the latest premiership club designer accessories - remember when Wenger came over (not the kid but to the premiership ) suddenly everyone wanted a frog.

Brings me back to a point I raised today on another thread - Houllier is available